No on Prop 8
It may seem obvious that restricting marriage rights to same-sex couples is segragation, but there is a resolution on the California ballot that proposes to do just this.
Let's be clear. Clergy does not have to perform any marriage they do not want to. They never have. Marriage rights do not threaten religious rights in any way. In truth, the only purpose of this measure is to establish once and for all that gay Californians are second-class citizens.
This comes down to the question of whether "separate but equal" works. Our constitution says it doesn't. History says it doesn't. For the last sixty years, brave Americans have struggled to get separate but equal measures overturned. Was the civil rights movement the right direction for America, or not? Are some people inherently worth more than others? Is civic equality an antiquated concept?
Vote No on 8.
What follows is the most rational breakdown of Prop 8 I've read, written by esteemed screenwriter John August:
Proposition 8 would eliminate the right of same-sex couples to marry in California.
Mike and I got married on June 28th. We want to remain married on November 5th. And without your help, we won’t.
Obviously, the fact that you’re a friend and/or colleague means that I think you’re a genius superstar with the heart of a paladin. You know Proposition 8 is wrong. But in daily life, you’re encountering dozens of people who might not get it, and worse, might not have a genius superstar to help them see why they need to Vote No on 8.
So consider this a cheat sheet for those conversations. And an appeal from me to please, please have these conversations, as awkward as they may be. Both sides are expecting this to be extremely close, so it really may come down to how your brother’s girlfriend votes. Yes, this is a long email, but it’s meant to be as much as reference as a rant. Feel free to copy-and-paste, rewrite-and-repurpose anything you see in it if it helps persuade the people in your life to Vote No on 8.
First off: Vote No on 8.
I shudder to think that some well-meaning voters will say to themselves, “Hey, I support gay marriage!” and mark “Yes.” It will happen. That’s why you have train yourself to think “No.” It can help to rephrase the proposition thusly: “Should religious conservatives rewrite the California constitution?” No. They should not.
You have to Vote No on 8. You have to ink that dot.
Many voters only vote the top of the ticket — for president. In a normal election, I wouldn’t care. But for the ballot initiative to pass, they only need to cross the 50% margin of votes cast on that issue. It’s not 50% of ballots — it’s 50% of the votes on that topic. So unless you actually mark the dot or punch the chad for No on 8, it’s as if you didn’t vote at all.
For people who’ve seen the other side’s ads
Vote No on 8, because it has nothing to do with education
Did you see that ad with the little girl talking to her mom about what they taught her about marriage in school? Total fabrication and fear-mongering. Do you remember being taught anything about marriage in school? I remember eating paste and learning my multiplication tables. But that’s the story they’re trying to sell. Fortunately, the state superintendent of schools and every teacher’s group you can think of came out very strongly against this inflammatory untruth.
If the backers of this proposition were worried about education, they should have sponsored a ballot initiative about education, rather than trying to strip away rights from thousands of California families.
Vote No on 8, which has nothing to do with taxes or religious freedom
One of their early ads implied that churches would lose their tax-exempt status if they refused to perform same-sex marriages. Think about that for a moment. Are Catholic churches required to perform Jewish weddings? Would you go to a Mormon temple for a Indian wedding? No. You would not. Churches have always and will always be do choose who they wish to marry, thanks to the First Amendment. (You know, that one before the awesome “right to bear arms” one.)
Believe it or not, this seems to be the major force behind Mormon involvement in Proposition 8. This afternoon, we encountered some Yes on 8 supporters waving signs near the Americana at Brand shopping megaplex. (And let me tell you, it’s weird to encounter people actively protesting your existence.) With Amy on my arm, I went up and spoke with them, asking what would happen if Prop 8 passed. “We wouldn’t be forced to marry gay people in our temple.” I asked them what would happen to me if Prop 8 passed, and they were stumped. “We’re not against two guys getting married,” one explained. “We just want to be able to keep our temple sacred.” They really, truly believe that without Prop 8, a lawsuit will force them to violate their religious tenets. They don’t trust the separation of church and state, so, ironically, they are undermining it even further.
From yesterday’s Salt Lake Tribune: “This time, LDS leaders have tapped every resource, including the church’s built-in phone trees, e-mail lists and members’ willingness to volunteer and donate money. Many California members consider it a directive from God and have pressured others to participate. Some leaders and members see it as a test of faith and loyalty.” It explains the zeal, at least.
Don’t take this as Mormon-bashing; research shows that the majority of the money supporting Proposition 8 comes from members. I grew up with a lot of Mormon friends, and found them singularly terrific. Even the people I spoke with today were nice as could be, considering the signs they were holding. But they clearly put themselves and their church first. When asked whether what they were doing was fair to me and my family, they could only shrug.
“Activist judges” are the new “terrorists.” Vote No on 8.
You’ve seen ads arguing that the Supreme Court ignored the will of the people by ignoring Prop 22, which was passed in 2000 with the exact same wording. But consider that nearly every major civil rights issue in our history has come as a court decision. In fact, it was the California Supreme Court that overturned the ban on inter-racial marriage, almost twenty years before Loving v. Virginia. Few reasonable Americans would argue that blacks, Latinos and women should have waited patiently until the majority of voters felt comfortable giving them rights.
Also, expect an ad about “small businesses.”
That’s one of their “Six Consequences If Proposition 8 Fails” that I haven’t seen in ad form yet. Same-sex marriage is supposed to hurt Joe the Plumber somehow. Wait for it.
For people who like endorsements
Obama says Vote No on 8.
“I oppose the divisive and discriminatory efforts to amend the California Constitution.” Same with Biden: “If I lived in California, I’d clearly vote against Prop. 8.”
The Democratic Party says Vote No on 8.
In fact, the Democratic-led California legislature twice voted for equality in marriage rights.
Even Governor Schwarzenegger says Vote No on 8.
And this is the guy who wouldn’t sign those marriage bills when they landed on his desk. Twice.
A lot of Republicans also say Vote No on 8.
In fact, the guy in charge of No on 8 is a Republican. Fairness is a family value. Dude, even Dick Cheney gets it: “Freedom in this country ought to mean freedom for everyone.” (He has a lesbian daughter, who is supporting No on 8.) The judges who ruled that same-sex couples need to be allowed to marry. Mostly Republicans, appointed by Republicans.
Almost every major California newspaper says Vote No on 8.
The L.A. Times says it is “a drastic step to strip people of rights.” La Opinión calls Prop 8 “an unnecessary initiative.” The San Diego Union Tribune writes that Prop 8 “offends many Californians’ sense of fairness.”
Apple, AT&T and Google say Vote No on 8.
Sergey Brin of Google: “However, while there are many objections to this proposition — further government encroachment on personal lives, ambiguously written text — it is the chilling and discriminatory effect of the proposition on many of our employees that brings Google to publicly oppose Proposition 8. While we respect the strongly-held beliefs that people have on both sides of this argument, we see this fundamentally as an issue of equality. We hope that California voters will vote no on Proposition 8 — we should not eliminate anyone’s fundamental rights, whatever their sexuality, to marry the person they love.”
For logical people
Vote No on 8, or you’ll be seeing a lot more of these ridiculous initiatives
The exact process that got this on the ballot could be used to do anything. Anything. You could ban green kites. You could tax Irish people. You could name a cat as Emperor. Because of California’s unfortunate tradition of voter initiatives, any ridiculous thing you can imagine can and will show up on the ballot unless we Vote No on 8.
Vote No on 8, because a majority shouldn’t be able to deny minority rights
A constitution is designed to protect citizens from their mob instincts by setting the rules for how government is going to work. Fundamental to that idea is that the rules should apply equally to everyone. Except in California, where you can permanently change the constitution with just 50% of the vote. This shouldn’t even be up for a vote. So Vote No on 8.
Vote No on 8, because “domestic partnership” is not the same thing
You’ll hear, “Couldn’t they just settle for civil unions?” Or, “California already has domestic partnership.” So let me set you straight on these terms. They’re meant to be comfortable replacements for the word “marriage.” But they’re not the same thing. If they were, Bristol Palin would be getting civil unioned. The word marriage matters. If it didn’t, they wouldn’t have spent $40 million putting this ballot issue together.
The other fundamental problem is that separate-but-equal has never worked out that well, historically or now. For example, before we got married, Mike and I were domestic partners. It’s supposed to give us all the same rights as marriage, but in practice, it’s basically roommates with hospital visitation privileges. Companies can happily ignore our joint status. Mike and I get challenged on the paternity of our daughter. It sucks. So what’s meant to be a parallel system inevitably becomes a second-class system.
For emotional people
What would you do if the government tried to take your marriage away?
The Yes side seems to cheerfully ignore that we’re not talking about a hypothetical right to get married. Eleven thousand couples have gotten legally married in California since the court’s decision come down. What happens to those people? What happens to John and Mike? There’s no clear answer. If that sounds scary, it is. So Vote No on 8.
When have Americans ever taken a right away?
Could you have voted to keep inter-racial couples from getting married? Probably not. The history of America, and California in particular, is towards personal freedom and responsibility. Indeed, if you ask most people, even most religious conservatives, they think same-sex couples will be free to marry in the future. So why not now? Vote No on 8.
Other things to consider
The polls are kind of useless…
The pollsters honestly admit they have no way of getting an accurate fix on how people are going to vote on this issue. Every day, you see a new one, and the numbers vary by 20% based on how the question is asked. So in some polls, No on 8 is up by double digits. In others, we’re down by the same amount.
…but their fear-based ads are working
Since you can’t measure an exact figure, it’s more helpful to look at trends in the polling. And the supporters of Prop 8 made a lot of headway when they started airing their TV and radio ads. No on 8 has new ads that have leveled it out, but it’s clear that there’s a big pool of swayable voters who could go either way.
Young women and church-going minorities especially important audiences
There are people who will absolutely vote for Prop 8, and folks who will absolutely Vote No on Prop 8. But there’s a squishy middle ground which includes a lot of voters who are traditionally Democratic but may be uncomfortable with the idea of same-sex marriage. Rather than challenge their feelings and beliefs, make sure to appeal to their sense of fairness and justice. Help them understand it as a form of discrimination, and listen to hear any talking points from the Yes side, which are pretty easy to address.

"[Mormons] clearly put themselves and their church first. When asked whether what they were doing was fair to me and my family, they could only shrug."
Well, fine. But let's be fair:
"Mike and I got married on June 28th. We want to remain married on November 5th. And without your help, we won't." Apparently, Mormons aren't the center of the universe; John and Mike are. And if a Mormon asked them to pretty-please settle for a civil union rather than a "marriage" so as not to confuse children, they'd probably do worse than shrug. We're all in it for ourselves.
"The exact process that got this on the ballot could be used to do anything. Anything. You could ban green kites. You could tax Irish people. You could name a cat as Emperor."
And if Prop 8 fails...a man could marry his daughter. A lady could marry her hat. Two lawn gnomes could be pronounced husband and wife. Slippery slopes are fun!
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On the subject of what is fair, my friend Alok brought up a good point. Religious leaders maintain that marriage is a religious institution, and they may be right.
If so, the government should back out of the marriage business completely, in the interest of separating church and state. All marriages in the United States should be made civil unions, regardless of the parties married. So, in the case of Barbara (whose comment did not make it through my e-mail filter until tonight) I should ask - how would you feel if you were told to relinquish your marriage license? It's for the good of the children, it eliminates comfusion, and it promotes democracy as we practice it.
If you want to be called a married couple, that's between you and your church. In the eyes of the law, you're not married and you never will be.
Truly, that's the most fair solution I've heard yet! It also creates problems if, for example, someone is stuck in a foreign country. Are civil partners able to get lawyers into the courts of other nations? Not generally, but if that's John's problem in the eyes of the law, it should be everyone's.
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